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فرنسي: philosophie laïque rationnelle progressiste

أنجليزي translation: Secular rationalist and progressive philosophy






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فرنسي مصطلح أو جملة:philosophie laïque rationnelle progressiste
أنجليزي ترجمة:Secular rationalist and progressive philosophy
تم إدخاله من قبل:Anna Maria Augustin
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ترجمة فرنسي إلى أنجليزي [للمحترفين]
الفلسفة / ethics
فرنسي مصطلح أو جملة: philosophie laïque rationnelle progressiste
Any officially used preference in UK English?
From an ethical point of view.

Thank you!
Bono
فرنسا
Local time: 17:02
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Anna Maria Augustin: 03:10 Mar 7, 2005: Thank you! I worked hard on this one. I guess, with your reference to India you know of The Jewel in the Crown...
Hope you had a good rest on your pillow-sophy. I should be on my pillow too - it's gone 4am in Paris. -
Jane Lamb-Ruiz: 14:02 Mar 7, 2005: You know Bono it so happens I have translated a lot of philosopy texts and happen to know this field. It is true that in terms of your terms, they do not all have equal weight and the main distinction is rationalist/empirical.empiricism versus rationalism -
Jane Lamb-Ruiz: 14:04 Mar 7, 2005: So, the French are rationalists and the Brits and Americans tend, I say tend, to be empiricists. That;s why I said philosopy of reason, to make that distinction. But cheers anyway... -
Jane Lamb-Ruiz: 14:06 Mar 7, 2005: So, just to remake my point. I wasn't saying words don't matter. i was saying that in this discourse, there is no vocabulary difference whether you are at Harvard, Princeton or Yale or Cambridge, Oxford or Durham University,for example. -
Jane Lamb-Ruiz: 14:08 Mar 7, 2005: Anyway, in terms of philosophical schools the main difference is USA empiricsm and Europe rationalism. I am sure your writer will agree, which is why I would put the word rationalist next to the word philosphy. -

Non-religious/Secular rational and progressive philosophy
شرح:
or something along those lines....

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It\'s humanism! I was going to put metaphysics but that is humanism from an ethical point of view - look up the humanists from the renaissance maybe.

IHS :: What Is Humanism? (The Humanist Philosophy)
... Do you think of yourself as non-religious? ... Humanism is a progressive philosophy of
life that, without ... by observation, experimentation, and rational analysis. ...
humaniststudies.org/humphil.html - Similar pages

Transhumanism: A Futurist Philosophy
... A eupraxophy, a non-religious philosophy of life, plays ... habitation, combined with
a rational philosophy and value ... entropic and anti-progressive since religious ...
www.maxmore.com/transhum.htm - Similar pages

WoodMoor Village Zendo: Humanism and its Aspirations
... Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms
our ... world is derived by observation, experimentation, and rational analysis ...
www.woodmoorvillage.org/2004/12/humanism_and_it.html - Similar pages

COHE :: Introduction to Humanism :: Lesson 2
... Some lifestances are generally viewed as non-religious, such as the ... be open to free
inquiry and rational criticism ... \"Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life ...
humanisteducation.com/class.html?module_id=1&page=2 - Similar pages

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Anna Maria Augustin
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Thank you everyone!
After some more research, I think Anna's suggestion (with a slight change) is best, having come up with a couple of hits on this including one about how England viewed India's less crown of England philosophy at the time.

I am aware that usually England and the United States would agree on philosophy and the variations in wording would not matter much, but to the man writing on the choice of words showing a different line of thinking and the main difference in attitude between Europe and the USA, it would matter a lot! As well as this, it is used to describe a trend and change in attitude which only Europe felt at the time, at least to such an extend and for such a reason. Thank you nonetheless Jane!

Thank you df. And thank you Richard for reminding us about lay and secular . And so I will finish by thanking Charlie for making me smile and go down and lay (could there be a pun in here somewhere? ) my head on the pillow now.


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ملخص لجميع الترجمات الـأنجليزي المقدمة
4 +2Non-religious/Secular rational and progressive philosophy
Anna Maria Augustin
5 +1progressive, secular rationalist, philosophyJane Lamb-Ruiz
4Further explanation, NFG.
Richard Benham
3 +1progressive rational lay philosophyCharlie Bavington
3progressive and rationalistic secular philosophyxxxdf49f


  

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13 دقائق   درجة الثقة: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 موافقة الزملاء الصافي: +1
progressive rational lay philosophy


شرح:
Off the top of my head. I haven't googled it :-)

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Hmm, no hits. There again, neither did the orginal French...

Charlie Bavington
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Local time: 16:02
اللغة الأصلية هي: أنجليزي

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موافق Richard Benham: I think "lay" is a bit of a faux ami here. I'd go for "secular".
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  -> now I've had some sleep, so would I :-)
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1 ساعة   درجة الثقة: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 موافقة الزملاء الصافي: +2
Non-religious/Secular rational and progressive philosophy


شرح:
or something along those lines....

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Note added at 1 hr 51 mins (2005-03-06 03:19:57 GMT)
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It\'s humanism! I was going to put metaphysics but that is humanism from an ethical point of view - look up the humanists from the renaissance maybe.

IHS :: What Is Humanism? (The Humanist Philosophy)
... Do you think of yourself as non-religious? ... Humanism is a progressive philosophy of
life that, without ... by observation, experimentation, and rational analysis. ...
humaniststudies.org/humphil.html - Similar pages

Transhumanism: A Futurist Philosophy
... A eupraxophy, a non-religious philosophy of life, plays ... habitation, combined with
a rational philosophy and value ... entropic and anti-progressive since religious ...
www.maxmore.com/transhum.htm - Similar pages

WoodMoor Village Zendo: Humanism and its Aspirations
... Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms
our ... world is derived by observation, experimentation, and rational analysis ...
www.woodmoorvillage.org/2004/12/humanism_and_it.html - Similar pages

COHE :: Introduction to Humanism :: Lesson 2
... Some lifestances are generally viewed as non-religious, such as the ... be open to free
inquiry and rational criticism ... \"Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life ...
humanisteducation.com/class.html?module_id=1&page=2 - Similar pages



Anna Maria Augustin
فرنسا
Local time: 17:02
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اللغة الأصلية هي: أنجليزي, فرنسي
نقاط مستوى المحترفين في الفئة: 4
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Thank you everyone!
After some more research, I think Anna's suggestion (with a slight change) is best, having come up with a couple of hits on this including one about how England viewed India's less crown of England philosophy at the time.

I am aware that usually England and the United States would agree on philosophy and the variations in wording would not matter much, but to the man writing on the choice of words showing a different line of thinking and the main difference in attitude between Europe and the USA, it would matter a lot! As well as this, it is used to describe a trend and change in attitude which only Europe felt at the time, at least to such an extend and for such a reason. Thank you nonetheless Jane!

Thank you df. And thank you Richard for reminding us about lay and secular . And so I will finish by thanking Charlie for making me smile and go down and lay (could there be a pun in here somewhere? ) my head on the pillow now.


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موافق Richard Benham: I would go with "secular".
2 ساعات
  -> Thanks, you down there in OZ. I'm the Aus up here in France

موافق sodamnlogical
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  -> Many thanks
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3 ساعات   درجة الثقة: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Further explanation, NFG.


شرح:
There was not enough space in my comment on Charlie's answer to include the below, so here it is:

One of the definitions of "laïque" in the Petit Larousse is:
"Qui est étranger à la réligion, au sentiment réligieux."

I would submit that this is the sense intended, and that it is expressed in English by the word "secular".

Richard Benham
فرنسا
Local time: 17:02
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نقاط مستوى المحترفين في الفئة: 4
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11 ساعات   درجة الثقة: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
progressive and rationalistic secular philosophy


شرح:
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xxxdf49f
فرنسا
Local time: 17:02
اللغة الأصلية هي: فرنسي
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12 ساعات   درجة الثقة: Answerer confidence 5/5 موافقة الزملاء الصافي: +1
progressive, secular rationalist, philosophy


شرح:
rationalist philosophy as in Descartes, this is the proper term..not anything else..you can also say; philosophy of reason

alternative answer: progressive, secular philosophy of reason

1) either you give the same weight to all the adjectives and put all three in
2) or use progressive, secular philosopy of reason...
3) rationalist philosophy is the "school" being referred to here, as it were

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My reference is that I just know this from having frequented this discourse in my specialty translation area.

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correx to my first answer: progressive, secular and rationalist philosophy.......

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secular in the sense of non-religous...

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Final:
1) progressive, secular and rationalist philosophy
2) progressive, secular philosophy of reason

I think one really has to use \"and\" correctly in English here.

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Again, Bono...UK and US English would never differ in this type of text.....it\'s a continuity....differences between the two languages would only relate, if at all, in this type of context - which I presume is academic or quasi-academic, to Spelling.

Jane Lamb-Ruiz
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اللغة الأصلية هي: أنجليزي, برتغالي
نقاط مستوى المحترفين في الفئة: 20

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موافق Carolingua: yes "progressive, secular and rationalist philosophy". This sounds more natural than "philosphy of reason".
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