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Thanks all Feb 15, 2016

I thank you all for your comments, they have been very helpful and have given me much to think about.

I think I will end up installing some variant of Unix in a dual-boot configuration and have a play with it. I'm not averse to having to learn a new OS - I've been doing that for 40 years! Nor am I averse to "fiddling" with it - I was a software developer for about 35 of those years.

The less than 100% compatibility with Office documents is a concern for me and I will ha
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I thank you all for your comments, they have been very helpful and have given me much to think about.

I think I will end up installing some variant of Unix in a dual-boot configuration and have a play with it. I'm not averse to having to learn a new OS - I've been doing that for 40 years! Nor am I averse to "fiddling" with it - I was a software developer for about 35 of those years.

The less than 100% compatibility with Office documents is a concern for me and I will have to evaluate just how much of an impact that is going to have.

I'll be getting right on that as soon as I have some free time. I have twenty spare minutes scheduled for 2018
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Rodolfo Raya
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Office 365 - Swordfish - openSUSE Feb 15, 2016

Hi,

If you purchase an Office 365 license from Microsoft, you can use Office online, directly in your browser. There is no compatibility issue if you use Word directly from Microsoft; the operating system doesn't matter.

If you want a CAT tool that works on Linux, You can try Swordfish for 30 days. See http://www.maxprograms.com/products/swordfish.html

Try openSUSE LEAP. It s ro
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Hi,

If you purchase an Office 365 license from Microsoft, you can use Office online, directly in your browser. There is no compatibility issue if you use Word directly from Microsoft; the operating system doesn't matter.

If you want a CAT tool that works on Linux, You can try Swordfish for 30 days. See http://www.maxprograms.com/products/swordfish.html

Try openSUSE LEAP. It s rolling Linux distribution that works on tried and tested stuff. Learn more at https://www.opensuse.org.

Regards,
Rodolfo
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Microsoft's online version of Word isn't ready for prime time Feb 15, 2016

Rodolfo Raya wrote:

Hi,

If you purchase an Office 365 license from Microsoft, you can use Office online, directly in your browser. There is no compatibility issue if you use Word directly from Microsoft; the operating system doesn't matter.

If you want a CAT tool that works on Linux, You can try Swordfish for 30 days. See http://www.maxprograms.com/products/swordfish.html

Try openSUSE LEAP. It s rolling Linux distribution that works on tried and tested stuff. Learn more at https://www.opensuse.org.

Regards,
Rodolfo



This morning, a colleague of mine asked me to test a few large, complex work-related .docx files in the MS Office online editor, and, sadly, the file got pretty badly mangled. I don't think the online version of Word is able to handle large, complex files (yet).


 
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Do it in Windows Feb 15, 2016

Terry Richards wrote:

The less than 100% compatibility with Office documents is a concern for me and I will have to evaluate just how much of an impact that is going to have.


You can evaluate it in Windows as well. Just install Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice to see if the compatibility is satisfactory. Otherwise, consider using wine or Crossover Linux.


 
Artem Vakhitov
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Working with PDF files can be a problem Feb 15, 2016

In my daily work I rely on tools such as ABBYY PDF Transformer+ and FineReader 11 Pro for dealing with PDF files and images in the document. On Linux, there is still no equivalent - that is, a comprehensive and reliable GUI OCR tool that would allow you to manually select areas of different type (text, image, table) for recognition in a specific order. Heuristics used in most PDF conversion software is often just not smart enough to figure out what is needed in a specific case - say, a journal a... See more
In my daily work I rely on tools such as ABBYY PDF Transformer+ and FineReader 11 Pro for dealing with PDF files and images in the document. On Linux, there is still no equivalent - that is, a comprehensive and reliable GUI OCR tool that would allow you to manually select areas of different type (text, image, table) for recognition in a specific order. Heuristics used in most PDF conversion software is often just not smart enough to figure out what is needed in a specific case - say, a journal article with complex layout.Collapse


 
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Again… Feb 16, 2016

Artem Vakhitov wrote:

In my daily work I rely on tools such as ABBYY PDF Transformer+ and FineReader 11 Pro for dealing with PDF files…


ABBYY FineReader 7.0 works fine via Crossover Linux. I did not try later versions as 7.0 suits my needs.

However, the general point is true: OCR is a bit problematic under Linux.

By the way, about compatibility: via Crossover Linux you can install and simultaneously launch different versions of MS Office Word, which is impossible under Windows.


 
Michael Beijer
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Versions Feb 16, 2016

esperantisto wrote:

Artem Vakhitov wrote:

In my daily work I rely on tools such as ABBYY PDF Transformer+ and FineReader 11 Pro for dealing with PDF files…


ABBYY FineReader 7.0 works fine via Crossover Linux. I did not try later versions as 7.0 suits my needs.

However, the general point is true: OCR is a bit problematic under Linux.


The latest version is ABBYY FineReader 12, not to forget the amazingly useful ABBYY Screenshot Reader (http://www.abbyy.com/screenshot-reader/ ).

By the way, about compatibility: via Crossover Linux you can install and simultaneously launch different versions of MS Office Word, which is impossible under Windows.


Depends on which versions. There are many versions that can be run just fine next to each other.

E.g., I have tested:

Word 2007 + Word 2010
Word 2007 + Word 2013/2016

.. on Windows 10 64-bit.


 
Eugenio Garcia-Salmones
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Yes completely agree, Feb 16, 2016

John Holland wrote:

Linux is an option, not a requirement. There are workflows and personal preferences that are more adapted to a virtual Windows environment on Linux, or simply to the Mac or Windows environments themselves.

The original question here is not whether everyone should change, but rather whether there are any specific problems - notably around MS Office file formats and CAT tools - for freelance translators using non-Windows and non-Mac operating systems.

There are those of us who do use these OSes. There are several CAT tool options (four have been mentioned in this thread), and MS Office file formats can be dealt with both by using LibreOffice and by installing MS Office (at least on Linux - I don't know about FreeBSD). Modern distributions don't even require that much tinkering, although a period of acclimatization is required, especially for seasoned users of other operating systems.

Thus, it is manifestly possible to work as translator without Windows, if one desires. It's a viable alternative for those looking for a non-proprietary approach.

[Edited at 2016-02-15 12:32 GMT]


Yes completely agree,If you d'ont like work with a proprietary system you can, maybe not with the BSD's systems because you need a determinate knowledge, But today with linux can work all people, is very easy, and the propietary system par excellence have more and more the inclination to spy theirs users, and this is not good.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/50308/8-hours-windows-10-sends-data-microsoft-ip-addresses-5500-times/index.html


 
CafeTran Training (X)
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Invulnerability of Linux? Feb 16, 2016

Eugenio Garcia-Salmones wrote:

But today with linux can work all people, is very easy, and the propietary system par excellence have more and more the inclination to spy theirs users, and this is not good.


Just this morning I read an interesting article about the often mentioned invulnerability of Linux:

Russian cyberspy group uses simple yet effective Linux Trojan: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3033195/security/russian-cyberspy-group-uses-simple-yet-effective-linux-trojan.html

Personally, I use OS X, which isn't completely safe either. I'm afraid that there isn't such a thing as a completely safe OS.

[Edited at 2016-02-16 10:31 GMT]


 
John Holland
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Invulnerability? Feb 16, 2016

CafeTran Training wrote:
Just this morning I read an interesting article about the often mentioned invulnerability of Linux:


I don't think anyone in this thread has made that kind of claim...

But, for anyone who is concerned, here is some more information:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/fysbis-the-linux-backdoor-used-by-russian-hackers-500367.shtml

If you look at that article you will see that the two attack vectors for this are targeted phishing and brute-force attempts on exposed ports. Counteracting these vectors involves the kind of basic security that any computer user/administrator should follow, regardless of OS. See for example:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/phishing.htm
http://communicrossings.com/safer-internet-connection-turn-unnecessary-services
http://www.zdnet.com/article/brute-force-attacks-beyond-password-basics/

This is a good summary of security measures for all OSes:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/10-security-tips-for-all-general-purpose-oses/


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