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| Tina Vonhof (X) Canada Local time: 03:40 Dutch to English + ...
I get a message to update Javascript every day and it is a nuisance. Is that normal or is there something fishy here? | | | neilmac Spain Local time: 11:40 Spanish to English + ...
I was getting these messages too for a while, on my laptops. I think I ended up just ignoring them. They may or may not be dangerous, I don't really know.
[Edited at 2015-02-18 18:21 GMT] | | | Not fishy but definitely a nuisance | Feb 18, 2015 |
I don't think they are fishy, but they're known to be a nuisance and largely unnecessary. You can change your settings so that you are no longer prompted to install these updates. | | | Radian Yazynin Local time: 12:40 Member (2004) English to Russian + ... Don't update unless absolutely necessary | Feb 18, 2015 |
Or you might have problems with applications requiring either older or earlier Java version. If all runs well in your PC don't disturb the environment. | |
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Tina Vonhof (X) Canada Local time: 03:40 Dutch to English + ... TOPIC STARTER
Thank you all for your advice. Unfortunately you can't just ignore these messages, you have to say yes or no to make it disappear. Changing my settings is an option if I can figure out how. I agree, Radian, that updates sometimes can cause all kinds or problems, I won't do that for sure. | | | Don't "update" | Feb 18, 2015 |
Radian Yazynin wrote: Or you might have problems with applications requiring either older or earlier Java version. There are different Java flavours, and you are referring to the JRE, the Java Runtime Environment. The Wiki: Despite some naming, syntactic, and standard library similarities, JavaScript and Java are otherwise unrelated and have very different semantics. The syntax of JavaScript is actually derived from C, while the semantics and design are influenced by the Self and Scheme programming languages.[9] JavaScript is also used in environments that aren't web-based, such as PDF documents, site-specific browsers, and desktop widgets. Whereas you can update Java JRE, you can't update JavaScript. Tina should be very, very careful. Since JavaScript uses your webbrowser as a runtime environment, I'd disable JavaScript (somewhere in the browser Settings/Preferences, security), at least for the time being, to see if she still gets those messages. In that case, she should see a doctor, for antibiotics, I'm afraid. Cheers, Hans (writing from Java) | | |
If it really concerns JavaScript, you're almost certainly dealing with malware. If it's about JRE, I can only image the update message is triggered when you launch an app that requires a later Java version. The update is probably safe, but may render other apps useless (the only way out is to launch them with the appropriate Java version, probably using the command line). Downloading ... See more If it really concerns JavaScript, you're almost certainly dealing with malware. If it's about JRE, I can only image the update message is triggered when you launch an app that requires a later Java version. The update is probably safe, but may render other apps useless (the only way out is to launch them with the appropriate Java version, probably using the command line). Downloading the later version at https://java.com/en/download is safer than downloading using the pop-up, and also allows you to check your current version. Correct me when I'm wrong. Cheers, Hans ▲ Collapse | | | Tom in London United Kingdom Local time: 10:40 Member (2008) Italian to English
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Radian Yazynin Local time: 12:40 Member (2004) English to Russian + ... Just uncheck the Auto Updates option | Feb 19, 2015 |
Tina Vonhof wrote: Changing my settings is an option if I can figure out how. Depending on your current version there must be such an option (Control Panel/Java). Any auto download/update must be disabled. | | | esperantisto Local time: 12:40 Member (2006) English to Russian + ... SITE LOCALIZER
Radian Yazynin wrote: Or you might have problems with applications requiring either older or earlier Java version. Java is not related to JavaScript, thus, updating Java won’t change anything for JavaScript. To me, any prompt to update JavaScript is very fishy because JavaScript engines are web browser components and thus are updated with respective browsers, not independently. | | | Oliver Walter United Kingdom Local time: 10:40 German to English + ... | Radian Yazynin Local time: 12:40 Member (2004) English to Russian + ... Right, thank you | Feb 19, 2015 |
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Tina Vonhof (X) Canada Local time: 03:40 Dutch to English + ... TOPIC STARTER Exact message | Feb 19, 2015 |
Thank you all for your input. I just received another message, here is what it says: Do you want the following program to access your computer: Program: Java auto updates Verified Publisher: Oracle America, Inc. File origin: hard drive So it is indeed about Java not Javascript. It looks legit but surely they don't update the program every day? I'll see if I can disable the automatic (?) updates. | | | Michael Beijer United Kingdom Local time: 10:40 Member (2009) Dutch to English + ... | Update, be careful about upgrades | Feb 20, 2015 |
Michael Beijer wrote: I'd say something fishy is going on. Now it has been established we're talking about JRE, and not JavaScript, I'd say it's perfectly safe to update (as I mentioned above). Be careful about upgrades though, because they may render apps that rely on JRE useless. JRE is "sandboxed" and is rather safe, with the exception of... JavaScript. Running an app that requires JRE (and there are many, especially for us, translators) activates JRE, but that activation goes unnoticed. The security problem is mainly caused by malicious JavaScript codes that run in your browser that can also activate JRE, and that - again - goes unnoticed. Unless you write JavaScript, I think you should disable JavaScript in your browser(s) to be on the safe side. Cheers, Hans | | | Pages in topic: [1 2] > | To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator: You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request » My daily Java CafeTran Espresso | You've never met a CAT tool this clever!
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