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How to confirm segment without sending it to the TM?
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AutohotKey Aug 9, 2019

Thanks, Stepan, for that AutohotKey script. I learned about that app very recently and it looks very powerful. I’ll definitely go deeper with it. Your insights about TM are very appreciated as well,

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How to confirm segment without sending it to TM Aug 9, 2019

Guillermo Mendez wrote:

Hi there,
I'm starting to use SDL Trados Studio (2019) after doing several courses, both from the manufacturer itself and from third parties, and there's a doubt that's always hanging over my head while I'm translating. We all know that pressing CTRL+INTRO confirms the translation and the segment is sent to memory. However, I don't quite understand why they should be simultaneous actions. What's the point of sending segments such as numbers or links to the translation memory, which apparently won't give me anything? Is there any way to confirm a segment and not send it to the translation memory?
Thanks,
Guillermo.


Hi Guillermo
have you tried CTRL+L, that is, locking the segments you don't want in your TM? You can then still confirm them and go to the next segment, the locked segments do not show up in your TM but are exported to the final file.


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How to confirm segment without sending it to TM Aug 9, 2019

Thanks, Wolfgang. The locking feature, along with filtering and segment status change is one option for translating without sending to TM several segments in a row. Nice!
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Confirm after locking? Aug 9, 2019

Wolfgang Schoene wrote:
You can then still confirm them and go to the next segment, the locked segments do not show up in your TM

The purpose of locking is to prevent any changes after locking. How can you confirm them then?

[Edited at 2019-08-09 13:20 GMT]


 

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Confirm after locking Aug 10, 2019

Stepan Konev wrote:

Wolfgang Schoene wrote:
You can then still confirm them and go to the next segment, the locked segments do not show up in your TM

The purpose of locking is to prevent any changes after locking. How can you confirm them then?

[Edited at 2019-08-09 13:20 GMT]


Hi Stepan
you are right, I shouldn't have said "confirm". What I meant is that you can go to the next segment with CTRL+Enter.


 

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I think there is a better way Aug 13, 2019

One of the things I love about Studio is that you don't lose anything even if the computer crashes. You get everything back that you had added to the TM. So, if you don't save it to the TM you would lose it.
I think the best way to avoid this is, when setting up the project, to create a project TM. This way everything you save goes into the project TM and not the main TM which is, instead, only updated when the project is finalized. This way you have a memory with one and still a memory of
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One of the things I love about Studio is that you don't lose anything even if the computer crashes. You get everything back that you had added to the TM. So, if you don't save it to the TM you would lose it.
I think the best way to avoid this is, when setting up the project, to create a project TM. This way everything you save goes into the project TM and not the main TM which is, instead, only updated when the project is finalized. This way you have a memory with one and still a memory of past test (presuming your TM covers various jobs) and you can check against the two.

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But you lose what you've done if the computer crashes and it is not saved to the TM Aug 13, 2019

Eileen Cartoon wrote:
One of the things I love about Studio is that you don't lose anything even if the computer crashes. You get everything back that you had added to the TM. So, if you don't save it to the TM you would lose it.
I think the best way to avoid this is, when setting up the project, to create a project TM. This way everything you save goes into the project TM and not the main TM which is, instead, only updated when the project is finalized. This way you have a memory with one and still a memory of past test (presuming your TM covers various jobs) and you can check against the two.
Eileen


To me the way Dejavu is set up makes much better sense. The project file functions as a database file, where each segment is saved when you leave it. That way you don't lose any work even if the computer crashes and you haven't saved the project to any TM or even saved the project. That the saving only happens from time to time automatically isn't good enough for me.

[Edited at 2019-08-13 15:23 GMT]


 

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Additional question (SDL Studio 2019): "Translated" segment status Jul 28

Does anybody happen to know what the topical keyboard shortcut for the "Translated" status (segment status) is (i.e. confirm segment without committing it to the TM)? In 2017, it used to be called "Translated" in the English version and was to be found in "Options --> Keyboard shortcuts --> Editor". But in the latest SDL version, I cannot find this list entry any more. Has it been renamed or has it even disappeared? When moving the mouse on the different ribbon options of "Change segment status"... See more
Does anybody happen to know what the topical keyboard shortcut for the "Translated" status (segment status) is (i.e. confirm segment without committing it to the TM)? In 2017, it used to be called "Translated" in the English version and was to be found in "Options --> Keyboard shortcuts --> Editor". But in the latest SDL version, I cannot find this list entry any more. Has it been renamed or has it even disappeared? When moving the mouse on the different ribbon options of "Change segment status", no shortcuts are indicated (whereas for "Confirm", they are). Any ideas?Collapse


 

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You probably have to use the mouse Jul 29

Wolfgang HULLMANN wrote:

Does anybody happen to know what the topical keyboard shortcut for the "Translated" status (segment status) is (i.e. confirm segment without committing it to the TM)? In 2017, it used to be called "Translated" in the English version and was to be found in "Options --> Keyboard shortcuts --> Editor". But in the latest SDL version, I cannot find this list entry any more. Has it been renamed or has it even disappeared? When moving the mouse on the different ribbon options of "Change segment status", no shortcuts are indicated (whereas for "Confirm", they are). Any ideas?


As far as I can find, what you want to do, is as follows:
Right mouse button - Change Segment status - Translated

You probably need to define a shortcut for this manually if you are to do this all the time. I regrettably don't know sufficient about creating shortcuts, but if you search on ProZ or SDL, you may find information on this.


 
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