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Glossary entry

عربي term or phrase:

... ﻮاﻠﺤﺎﻗﺎ ﻠﺨﻁﺎﺒﻨﺎ ﺮﻗﻡ

أنجليزي translation:

further to our previous letter no

Added to glossary by Sayed Moustafa talawy
Feb 4, 2008 11:19
17 yrs ago
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عربي term

... ﻮاﻠﺤﺎﻗﺎ ﻠﺨﻁﺎﺒﻨﺎ ﺮﻗﻡ

عربي إلى أنجليزي الأعمال/المال عام \ محادثات \ تحيات \ خطابات Egyptian usage
This phrase appears in the preamble to a letter. Does the word ﻮاﻠﺤﺎﻗﺎ here mean something like "And further to our letter no ...", or is it a reference to a physical attachment/appendix to that letter?

Many thanks in advance.
Change log

Feb 9, 2008 19:01: Sayed Moustafa talawy changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/136406">James Roberts's</a> old entry - "... ﻮاﻠﺤﺎﻗﺎ ﻠﺨﻁﺎﺒﻨﺎ ﺮﻗﻡ "" to ""further to our previous letter no ""

Proposed translations

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further to our previous letter no

goes like that in most cases
Peer comment(s):

agree Amira Mansour : I would say it without previous
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It works also Thanks Amira...Apperciated
agree Assem Mazloum :
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Thanks Assem...Apperciated
agree Neamaat Shehatah
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Thanks Hervana... Apperciated
agree Aljobury
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Thanks AlJobury...Apperciated
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Every answer was helpful, but this one gets the points for being the first! Many thanks to all, and especially to Khalid for taking the trouble to give a detailed explanation."
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further to our letter no.

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Peer comment(s):

agree Amira Mansour
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Thank you.
agree zax
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Thank you.
agree Aljobury
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agree Dina Hassan
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agree haiseb
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agree sktrans
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agree Noha Mostafa : Agree
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agree Maureen Millington-Brodie
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agree Steve Booth
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agree Mohsin Alabdali
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Thank you.
agree Sam Berner (X)
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agree Neamaat Shehatah
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Thank you.
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referring to our letter No....


سواء كانت العبارة "إلحاقا لخطابنا أو "بالإشارة إلى خطابنا" أرى أن التعبير الإنجليزي الأكثر شيوعا هو ما تقدمت به مع اقتناعي بصحة ما تفضل به الزملاء.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Amira Mansour : I beg to differ, Mr. Ahmad! I think there is a difference between إلحاقاً ل and بالإشارة إلى. Referring to means بالإشارة إلى أو إيماءً إلى but إلحاقاً ل means "further to" indicating that this letter follows the letter No.
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I totally understand your point. My proposition here is related to English style or writing such letters.
agree Mouna Oueslati : I entirely agree with you.
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Reference to our letter..No..

Reference to our letter..No..
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subjoining or appending to our letter number..

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See explanation


Normally I translated “إلحاقاً لخطاب رقم” by Further to our letter no. And also usually this phrase appears at the beginning of the main text after date, greeting and subject.
But I noticed that your phrase appears in the preamble to a letter (before date, greeting and subject. Here we should notice the following.

First: from a superior to inferior

1. Who is the addresser or who is the addressee
2. The importance of the text
If it is a normal letter we should translate as above
If it implies an instruction from a superior entity, this means that this superior entity has made a new regulation or modification to an important letter or law etc. and wants to draw attention to this change and implement it.

We shall translate it as it is implied by the letter text but we shall keep it as near as possible to “Further to our letter??) or adding regarding and mention the letter subject.

Second: From equivalent entities

When the addresser and addressee have a lot of correspondence and issues, we shall translate it:
“A reference to our letter” or any equivalent phrase.

In all cases it shall be in a special font to indicate the importance.
Peer comment(s):

agree Sayed Moustafa talawy : I Agree with you Khalid u are so accurate..:)
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Many thanks Sayed
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