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السافيات
العاقبة في المسرات

Glossary entry

عربي term or phrase:

الصفويين

أنجليزي translation:

Safavids

Added to glossary by Maureen Millington-Brodie
Mar 11, 2007 13:51
18 yrs ago
عربي term

الصفويين

عربي إلى أنجليزي أخرى عام \ محادثات \ تحيات \ خطابات Saudi Arabic
as in
كلنا ضد طريقة قتله وضد الصفويين لكن كفى دجلاً بأنه شيخ المتقين
it is a blog again, the general subject is the execution of Saddam Husain
Proposed translations (أنجليزي)
5 +5 Safavids
4 +1 Safawids
5 Safavis
5 Shiites or Safawites
4 Safawees
3 Safawis

Discussion

Alaa Zeineldine Mar 17, 2007:
... addresses a genuine translation issue, and because the variety of answers and comments below seem to balance themselves out. In future, answerers should avoid voicing opinions that do not have a clear linguistic impact on the subject. Thank you.
Alaa Zeineldine Mar 17, 2007:
Everyone realizes the heavily loaded nature of this question and the discussion it generated. I would have removed some of the comments appearing here for violation of several ProZ rules. I only left them because the quesion clearly addresses [more ...]
Alaa Zeineldine Mar 17, 2007:
Arabic Tongue: Please review KudoZ rules regarding comments on the Asker's chosen answer. This is the Asker's prerogative.
Ahmad Batiran Mar 16, 2007:
Commenting on your comment "more google hits", that is a marketing not an academic issue.

Proposed translations

+5
1 ساعة
Selected

Safavids

At least in a college class I took on Iranian history, I remember we always referred to them as the Safavids. I think the "v" instead of "w" is closer to the Farsi original.
Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty

Peer comment(s):
agree Mahammad Kalfat (X) : http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/512 http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=63106 http://arablinks.blogspot.com/2006/10/safavid-apostates.html http://info.interactivist.net/print.pl?sid=07/01/03/1443236
5 دقائق
agree Alexander Yeltsov
2 ساعات
agree Randa Farhat : Safawids / Safavids
4 ساعات
agree Stephen Franke
1 يوم 44 دقائق
agree Eman Riesh
1 يوم 9 ساعات
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks everyone, I went for this one in the end as it had many more google hits"
3 دقائق

Safawis

reference to Iran

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Note added at 8 mins (2007-03-11 13:59:43 GMT)
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see:
http://www.4dw.net/royalark/Persia/safawi.htm
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+1
45 دقائق

Safawids

According to Philip K. Hitti's history of the Arabs.

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Note added at 47 mins (2007-03-11 14:39:04 GMT)
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JSTOR: The Origins of the Safawids: Si'ism, Sufism, and the gulatSafawids: 2z'tsm, .Sufism, and the gulczt. (Freiburger Islamstudien, Bd. III.) iX, 109 pp. Wiesbadell: Franz Steiner Verlag GmbH, 1972. DM 28. ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0041-977X(1974)37%3A1%3C236%3ATOOTSS%3E2.0.CO%3B2-A - Similar pages

JSTOR: The Office of Khalifat Al-Khulafa under the SafawidsSAVORY: The Office of "kchalifat al-khulafd" under the Safawids Persia two years later.10 This Sufi organisation was still active during the time of Shah ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0003-0279(196510%2F12)85%3A4%3C497%3ATOOKAU%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W - Similar pages

The Fitzwilliam Museum : Search½ rupee (denomination), Islamic (Series), The Shahs of Iran (subseries), Safawids (subsubseries). Museum Accession Number: CM.TR.132-R. Find out more . ...
www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguesummary.html?... - 19k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

Alibris: The origins of the Safawids; Siism, Sufism, and the Gulat ...Millions of used books, new books, out-of-print books, rare books, music and movies from thousands of independent sellers worldwide.
www.alibris.com/.../0935275631/The origins of the Safawids;... - 26k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

Amazon.com: The origins of the Safawids;: Si°ism, Sufism, and the ...Amazon.com: The origins of the Safawids;: Si°ism, Sufism, and the Gulat, (Freiburger Islamstudien): Books: Michel M Mazzaoui by Michel M Mazzaoui.
www.amazon.com/origins-Safawids-Si°ism-Freiburger-Islamstudien/dp/B0006CAWLY - 80k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
agree Randa Farhat : Safawids / Safavids
4 ساعات
Thank you Randa
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3 ساعات

Safawees

The Reporter's Arab Library - New York Times
Politicians routinely impugn their rivals as Iranian stooges by calling them Safawees, as if the Safavid empire of Persia (1502-1736) still existed. ...
http://my.brandeis.edu/news/item?news_item_id=104173&show_re...

Some early islamic history - Baghdadee بغدادي
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Excluding some Safawees who followed Shiasm for completely different reasons that is related to competition with the his rival Othman Sunni. ...
http://baghdadee.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=189
Reference:

http://my.brandeis.edu/news/item?news_item_id=104173&show_release_date=

http://baghdadee.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=189

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5 ساعات

Safavis

Acc to Mawsoah.com (it needs full subscription), but the state is the Safawi State (check the link please!)
Reference:

http://www.mawsoah.com/gae_portal/maogen.asp?main2&articleid=331756_1

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3 دقائق

Shiites or Safawites

The Shiites are also called the Safawites especially by Sunnis.

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Note added at 4 أيام (2007-03-15 20:46:24 GMT) Post-grading
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I know the Shiites are meant. Tell that to the people who think we don´t know what´s going on. And in good translation spirit you could write Shiites because an English reading audience will not understand Safawites. Arabs, however, will understand the term الصفويون . My 2 cents ...
Note from asker:
John, Shiites are meant but the same text refers to the Sons of Monkeys and Pigs meaning Americans and British and I have also kept the original expression to give the "flavour" (ie. highly bigoted) of the text.
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