Maria Chmelarova Nov 29, 2004:

Suhlas: spravy, referaty ale aj dokumenty, ktore su dokazatelne, odsuhlasene... Ja by som len dodala, nebolo by na skodu pre buduce podobne pripady, uviest w.p. s vysvetlenim pod ciarou, pripadne v uvodzovkach.

Non-ProZ.com Nov 29, 2004:

Oprava: Co sa estetickeho hladiska tyka, zostaneme pri spravach. Dufam, ze kolegovia suhlasia. (: - neoplati sa ponahlat

Non-ProZ.com Nov 29, 2004:

To maat ka re Uznavam, ze s Vasim prekladom by nemali nastat diskusie, kedze sa jedna o vacsinou o technicke spravy.
Kontext:Based upon our key go-to-markets, you will find partner-ready material - from case studies, training, white papers, demos and more - to support you in your marketplace.
Aj ked je ocividne, ze IT naozaj hadze 'White Papers' a 'white papers' viac menej na jednu kopu. Dost sa to prelina. Ale do sa estetickeho hladiska tyka, ostaneme pre spravach. Dufam , ze kolegovia shulasia.
Body by asi mali byt zmenene, musim zistit ako.
Este raz kazdemu velmi pekne dakujem.

Radovan Pletka Nov 29, 2004:

ze byste doporucila nejake terminologicke zmeny a prodiskutujte to s nim. Kdyz penize nemaji, je to voda pod mostem (-:

Radovan Pletka Nov 29, 2004:

Pani kolegyne, nedelejte si s tim uz starosti, podivejte se co jsem pripsal k me odpovedi. Termin bila kniha je natolik neurcity a rozplizly, ze ho muzete v tomto pripade naprosto klidne pouzit. Pokud chcete, a zakaznik ma penize, navrhnete mu

Non-ProZ.com Nov 29, 2004:

sorry. preklep(haha) - hladala som, nie hladal som.

Non-ProZ.com Nov 29, 2004:

To pretty Dostala som sa iba na hlavnu stranku, nie /clanky. Hladal som vo vyhladavaci tej stranky a vyhodilo to niekolko roznych odkazov na podnikanie, programy, vyrocne spravy.
Ste si ista, ze Biela kniha nie je spravny vyraz na 'White Paper'(co sa tyka firiem v oblasti technologie)? Mohli by ste sa pozriet na www.ibm.sk a hladat 'White Paper' na odkazy?
Uvedomujem si, ze slovniky maju urcitu (pevnu) definiciu, ale niekedy sa v praxi moze realizovat inac?
Manzel tiez pracuje v oblasti IT a on casto cita white papers ci white paper(bez rozdielu na 'capital letters'). Pre nich su to 'report, investigation on a topic' alebo 'technical manuals' atd.
Na ktoru cast ste mysleli, ze by som nemala pouzit vyraz 'Biela kniha'.
Dakujem za odozvu.

Maria Chmelarova Nov 28, 2004:

Este nieco:Roget's International Thesaurus namiesto "white paper" mozno pouzit announcement, information or official document. Vela stastia.

Maria Chmelarova Nov 28, 2004:

Osobna uvaha; vo vasom pripade pouzit termin "Biela kniha" nie je spravny. Podrobnejsie : www.rpicpo.sk/clanky. V pripade terminu "biele papiere", treba vysvetlit vyznam terminu, vid: www.stelzner.com a pouzit: "spravy, referaty"...

Non-ProZ.com Nov 28, 2004:

A este nieco: Ospravedlnujem sa, ze som nedala dostatok kontextu na zaciatku celej diskusie. Nemyslela som, ze tam bude rozdiel medzi firmami z rozdielnych oblasti.
Tiez, v mojom projekte uz bola cast projektu prelozena a bolo pouzite slovo 'Biela kniha' na 'White Paper'.

Non-ProZ.com Nov 28, 2004:

This observation refers purely to technology companies Ked sa pozriem na ibm.sk web stranku(kedze moj projekt sa tykal IT spolocnosti)a hladam 'white papers' ci 'White Paper' - je to viac alebo menej to iste. (v oblasti IT). O inych oblastiach nehovorim.
Su to teda reporty(spravy) na urcitu temu (technicke aj netechnicke-napr. oblast marketingu) a tiez technicke manualy.
Takisto zamienaju 'white papers' - 'White Papers'- 'White Paper'-'White papers'.
Ale 'White Paper' definition from the web: statement of policy. Cisco company also uses it as a 'Network Security Policy' document.
A nakoniec som nasla toto: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/W/white_paper.html
Z coho usudzujem, ze firmy v oblasti technologie hore uvedene slova viac alebo menej zamienaju.
'White Paper(s)' a 'white papers':
A report on a topic given by an individual or group with authority on the topic, typically to explain the results of a development effort. Technology companies often publish white papers to explain newly developed technologies and can include an explanation of how the technology was developed, how it is used, benchmark and other testing results for the technology, statistical analyses, and other information. Companies often use white papers to educate people about their products and/or services as a way of marketing them.
V oblasi technologie: 'White Paper'(Biela kniha) , 'white papers'(spravy, manualy, atd., ci biele knihy?) Nakoniec, vsetky su tlacene na biely papier alebo su vo forme pdf.
Je teda preklad biele knihy nespravny? (v oblasti technologie)
Vopred dakujem za objasnenia a diskusiu.

Non-ProZ.com Nov 28, 2004:

Dakujem za pripomienky. Question: Is White Paper like a research into a subject and white paper(s) like a manual?

Maria Chmelarova Nov 26, 2004:

I found something interesting, worth to read: www.stelzner.com, and scroll down to: What is White Paper? So, who is right?

Tatiana Fröhlich Nov 26, 2004:

a e�te doporu�ujem zamyslie� sa nad t�m, �o som u� nap�sala: je rozdiel medzi White Paper a white papers. S �ctou maat ka re

Non-ProZ.com Nov 26, 2004:

To pretty: U nas sa pouziva termin Biela kniha (definicia white papers je nam znama, jedna sa o najdenie slovenskeho ekvivalentu, resp.prekladu)

Apolonia Vanova Nov 25, 2004:

Just a suggestion: "Biela kniha" is a history book written by Prof. �ur�ansk�

Non-ProZ.com Nov 24, 2004:

Note: Sorry, my grammar and spelling: I have found relevant

Non-ProZ.com Nov 24, 2004:

Note: I found a relevenant translation of 'Biela kniha' which has been accepted.

Non-ProZ.com Nov 24, 2004:

Note: