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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Gîte de randonnée

English translation:

Trekking lodge

Added to glossary by Carol Gullidge
Jan 27, 2008 15:15
16 yrs ago
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French term

Gîte de randonnée

French to English Other Tourism & Travel description of accommodation type
******Gîte de randonnée****** comprenant 2 chambres doubles et 14 places en dortoir. Ouvert de mai à septembre. Réservation obligatoire. A partir du gîte : circuits de randonnée à pied, à cheval et à vélo.
Equipement : coin cuisine, cheminée à l’âtre, local à vélos.
Tarifs : Nuitée en chambre 1 pers. ....
Mise à disposition des locaux pour repas :
Halte cheval :
Nuitée cheval en stalle etc......

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This is just one of many Gîtes de randonnée in this site.
I'm not sure what the English equivalent of this is, if any...

It's a sort of hostel where both people and horses are accommodated. This one can hold 18 people and 12 horses. Humans stay either in bedrooms or dormitories - some of them vast! The randonnées include hiking, pony trekking, and cycling - so I have to avoid 'hiking' or 'rambling'.

We also have 'auberges de jeuness' elsewhere, so youth hostel is to be avoided.

My provisional term is "Trail Lodge" - but I'm not at all convinced by this. Although it does seem to be used quite a bit on US sites, I can't find any in UK... Perhaps that's why it sounds so odd to me...

I do hope somebody can come up with an improvement on this - or even confirm whether "trail lodge" is an accepted term. Many thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +5 Trekking lodge
4 +3 Hike Inn Lodge
4 +2 Ramblers hut/gîte
4 Rambling hostel
4 Self-catering accomodation with stabling facilities
2 +1 (overnight) stopover/"staging post"
3 Stopover accomodation (with stabling)
3 Hikers' lodge/cabin

Discussion

Carol Gullidge (asker) Jan 27, 2008:
Sorry folks, I couldn't resist sharing this - discovered whilst researching another term: "It is about a furnished flat vacation rental. Subleasing is speechless"

So am I!!
Carol Gullidge (asker) Jan 27, 2008:
Many thanks EVERYBODY (including notes and comments) for all the really helpful suggestions! In the end, Anne's answer fits beautifully - especially given the link I subsequently found - thanks to her suggestion.
Carol Gullidge (asker) Jan 27, 2008:
Thanks Anne and Rachel! I haven't yet ruled out that possibility, but hesitate to use gîte, simply because so many Brits know this in its self-catering-accommodation form. Most of these offer breakfast at least, some even offer evening meals and packed lunches. Others have facilities for cooking/eating your own food on the premises...

That doesn't of course mean to say that the whole term (Gîte de randonnée) necessarily has to be totally avoided... but I'd prefer a ready-made equivalent, especially as it's not the sort of site where explanatory footnotes would be appropriate
Rachel Fell Jan 27, 2008:
Yes, I was wondering whether it can't be left in French
Anne de Freyman (X) Jan 27, 2008:
Gîte de randonnée is definitely the same as Gîte d'étape. No doubt about that. But they are not youth hostels (beware of wikipedia!). If I were you, I'd leave the full term in French in " ".
Carol Gullidge (asker) Jan 27, 2008:
Gosh - thanks everybody!

In answer to Anne (above): yes, these are all in France - the Meuse to be more precise (sorry, perhaps I should have specified that in the beginning)

CWC-Claire: Out of the Wiki possibilities in your link, Gîtes d'Etape is by far the closest. Only problem is that they say that its nearest equivalent in English would be Youth Hostel, and we have "auberges de jeunesse" later on - so this needs to be different.

ormiston: your 'hostel' might be a seroius contender, without the 'youth' element!
Claire Chapman Jan 27, 2008:
I don't know if this helps, but Wikipedia EN does have an entry for gîte, complete with explanations of each kind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gite
ormiston Jan 27, 2008:
here's what a hostel is known as: What is a hostel?
A hostel offers low priced accommodation that provides a bed, pillow, blanket, and bathing facilities, usually in dormitory style. Many hostels include a free breakfast in their nightly price, have low priced meals available, and/or have a kitchen available for guests to use.
Anne de Freyman (X) Jan 27, 2008:
Hi Carol. Are all these gîtes in France or is your text describing accommodation in far away places? You are definitely on the right tracks with lodge, which is the correct term for what your text is describing. Nothing to do with "gîtes de France"!
ormiston Jan 27, 2008:
As it is' none of the above' I googled what is a gîte' and got this (with the circumflex removed, pardee!):What is a gite in France holiday
A gite holiday in France is a self-catering holiday. That is, the accommodation is supplied, but you usually make your own travel arrangements and no food is supplied - you need to eat at restaurants or cook for yourself at home. Barbecues are very popular.

If you are looking for a gite or holiday home to rent in France click HERE

A gite is usually a typical home of the region, and can be a everything from a small cottage to a farmhouse or even a chateau. Gites are available that sleep any number of people, so are suitable for both smaller and larger groups. Most commonly the term 'villa' is used for more modern properties, although not always
ormiston Jan 27, 2008:
I understand the dilemma here. Out of curiosity I thought the Lake District was the nearest parallel. They (interestingly but unsatisfactorily) list as accommodation -
Tent
Caravan
Motorhome
Bed & Breakfast
Guest House
Hotel
Youth Hostel
Holiday Cottage
None of the above
John Peterson Jan 27, 2008:
Travellers' Rest might be another "neutral" term, but may sound like the name of a pub or loses the activity/rugged aspect of the holiday. Resting point(s) - followed by place name - could be another option.
Carol Gullidge (asker) Jan 27, 2008:
thanks, Drmanu49! I did know that randonnée included all those things. It's a pity that we don't have an equivalent word that encompasses all of them (including the cross-country ski-ing). My best attempt was 'trail'. I certainly want to avoid having to specify all of those possibilities in the subheadings, although something like 'hiking/trekking/cycling Trail xxxx' might do for the main heading

And, yes, it's definitely Sunday afternoon!
Carol Gullidge (asker) Jan 27, 2008:
I'm sorry, but I forgot to mention that this is both a main heading in the text, and also appears with great frequency either on its own (as a sub-heading) or as part of the name of the accommodation. eg: 'Gîte de Randonnée de Nnnnnn'.
Drmanu49 Jan 27, 2008:
Darn, must be Sunday or something... Sorrrrrry! (for the mising Rs)
Drmanu49 Jan 27, 2008:
Soory, that went in the wrong place!

Inn-to-Inn Horse Riding (lodge)
Drmanu49 Jan 27, 2008:
Randonnée is hiking, riding or trekking (skiing or walking/riding).

But you could put in ride inn lodge
Inn and Lodge Riding Tours in North America. If you want to experience the countryside on horseback, but don't really like to sleep in a tent, ...
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Proposed translations

+5
53 mins
Selected

Trekking lodge

This is the term which seems to be widely used for long treks, by whichever means, in Morrocco, the Himalayas etc. on the "parcours de grande randonnée". Don't know if this is what your text is about...
Note from asker:
Many thanks, Anne: this is looking hopeful! Trekking lodge   Les gîtes d'étape permettent de faire halte sur un itinéraire de randonnée pédestre, cycliste ou équestre... I'm delving further into this: http://www.rando.net/eng/Ou_se_loger/Gites_d_etape_et_Refuges/index.html
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : if it's a lodge
2 mins
agree Julie Barber : a lodge seems perfect to me for a 'stop-over' place....and trekking covers walking + horses
3 mins
agree Claire Cox : This sounds good to me - I was thinking along the lines of mountain hut, but they're altogether more primitive.
1 hr
agree Gacela20
2 hrs
agree Rachel Fell
2 hrs
agree Graham macLachlan
15 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks so much, Anne! This seems to cover everything"
+1
11 mins

(overnight) stopover/"staging post"

A guess. Maybe one way round is to use a more general term and let the text provide the context. For staging post, I'd be inclined to use quotation marks.

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or stopover accommodation
Note from asker:
thanks, John! I like the idea of "staging post", but wonder if this might be too horse-oriented. Will mull over this and "stopover"...
Peer comment(s):
neutral ormiston : staging post sounds too entrenched in mail coach connotations to me
18 mins
Agreed, but using quotation marks may be a way of getting around a too literal interpretation..
agree Emma Paulay : with stopover accommodation. Sorry, I didn't read all of your answer before posting
1 hr
Thanks - no probs!
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+2
13 mins

Ramblers hut/gîte

In fact I would prefer gîte. This word is now almost into the english language and is certainly common in travel brochures
Note from asker:
thanks, cjkennedy! I had thought of etaining 'gite ' - only trouble is that it's so well known to the Brits as self-catered accommodation. Some of these are small, so 'hut' could fit there, but some are quite big. Don't know how big a 'hut' can be!
Peer comment(s):
agree writeaway : well, yes. this is what it's called in English afaik..... keep gîte because hut is too specific . Rambler shows that it's a short-stay acccomodation
7 mins
neutral veratek : I don't think of a hut as a synonym to a lodge/hostel - gîte is probably quite fitting
15 mins
agree Victoria Porter-Burns : yes, 'ramblers' is good here. what about 'cabin' instead of 'hut', then, Carol? sounds a tiny bit grander, don't you think?
18 mins
neutral ormiston : 'hut' to me is limited to small mountain 'refuge' typ accommodation. So I really think 'gîte' deserves to stay in French (although it is a sort of hostel)
22 mins
neutral Anne de Freyman (X) : "gîte de randonnée" has nothing to do with a holiday "gîte rural". Original meaning of the word is "a place to lodge" for the night. See Le Petit Robert.
43 mins
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55 mins

Rambling hostel

I think this should fit OK. They seem to be more hostels than anything else, and I've found several links using rambling for 'with horse' circuits. One referred to 'equine rambling' but that sounds really weird to me.

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Backpackers lodge is another suggestion that seems to fit the bill. Here's a link to one in S. Africa that's rooms, dormitories etc
http://users.iafrica.com/s/st/stumble/stumble.htm
Note from asker:
thanks, Sheila! Another possibility, although I'd need to encompass the horse-riders and cyclists.
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : if it's a hostel/seems to be several places not just one. are they all the same? depends on what the actual question is.
2 mins
The 'dortoir' would suggest so
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1 hr

Stopover accomodation (with stabling)

Most of the time a "randonnée" means on foot although it does apply to many other forms of travel in stages. Googling stopover accomodation brings up several sites in France.

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Make that accomModation!
Reference:

http://www.tourism-touraine.com/bck_edito/fichiers/l&r_equestre04.pdf

http://auvergne.wordpress.com/category/stabling/

Note from asker:
many thanks, Emma! The 1st link shows gite d'étape as "stopover accommodation" - and in fact John already mentioned this! haven't yet read link no. 2!
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1 hr

Self-catering accomodation with stabling facilities

Mention is made of "coin-cuisine" so certainly not an Inn.
Note from asker:
Thanks, Bashiqa! You're right - it's definitely not an inn!
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57 mins

Hikers' lodge/cabin

maybe?
Log Cabins and Offices - Fishing Cabins
Whether a fishing lodge, hikers lodge or bothy, we have a cabin to suit your sporting needs and if you would like a cabin that blends in with the natural ...
www.logcabinsandoffices.com/fishing-cabins.htm


Mallorca Expeditions - Orient to Alaró
We then continue upwards to the hikers' lodge and pilgrims' chapel (Mare de Deu del Rufugi). There is a bar/restaurant where you can grab a drink or meal. ...
www.mallorcaexpeditions.com/content/view/19/24/lang,es/ - 16k -

Basingstoke Online » Forums » Camping near Basingstoke
... september... now we are looking for a cheap place to sleep. something like a camping or a hikers cabin. Can somebody give me a good adress or a website? ...
www.basingstoke.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&... - 33k -

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have just seen you don't want "hiking" - though of "countryside lodges" and found these, though they look rather more luxy than yours may be-?


log cabin lodges situated in the North Suffolk countryside.

Ideal just to escape the hassle of work or as a base to explore the East Anglian countryside and heritage coast.

The Countryside Lodges are very well appointed with fitted kitchen, en-suite master bedroom, good size family bathroom and a twin bedded room. There is also a sofa bed in the open plan lounge area that can sleep two adults. The Lodges are double glazed and have full central heating and are equipped with microwave, fridge and remote control colour TV.

There is additional decking on the front of the lodge for you to be able to dine outside. ..
There is also the facility to purchase fresh farm eggs and bacon on site and various other sundries.
http://www.logcabinholidays.co.uk/accomodation.asp

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Self Catering Holiday Cottages, Flats and Apartments In Devon UK
touring caravan parks, idyllic holiday and farmhouse cottages, contemporary luxurious apartments and converted barns, camping in Dartmoor, fun-packed holiday parks in Woolacombe and Torbay and countryside lodges. If you're looking for independence, with no need to get up for 7am breakfasts and so forth then self-catering offers complete flexibility and self-containment, perfect for romantic getaways or families.
http://www.iknow-devon.co.uk/information/self_catering.htm

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Yes, the ones in the 1st link certainly are too small, and not relevant, sorry, hadn't actually looked at the pics. for that, though did for the others
countryside trekking lodge maybe?
Note from asker:
Thanks, Rachel! As you say, hiking is too specific. I love the log cabins, but they do look rather too luxurious - also perhaps too small? Countryside lodges on yr link looks a possibility...
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+3
10 mins

Hike Inn Lodge

The best surprise comes at the end of the trail: the welcoming gray outline of Len Foote Hike Inn. This backcountry lodge opened in November of 1998 and is ...
gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/hiking/hik_amica2.htm - 66k

The Hike-Inn Lodge Amicalola Falls State Park ... A 5-mile hike leads to more unique accommodations at the new Len Foote Hike Inn.
assi-cad.com/reynolds/projects/hikeinn.htm - 3k -

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Ride Inn Lodge also Carol.

Inn and Lodge Riding Tours in North America. If you want to experience the countryside on horseback, but don't really like to sleep in a tent, ...
www.hiddentrails.com/usa/ir/index.htm - 20k

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and also Inn-to-Inn Horse Riding

Canyonlands Inn-to-Inn Horse Riding Holidays, Trip Listing Service ... Utah and check into Muley Twist Inn, Sky Ridge B & B or the Lodge at Red River. ...
www.infohub.com/TRAVEL/SIT/sit_pages/8834.html - 42k

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As pointed out below, the answer should read Inn / Lodge
Note from asker:
many thanks for the speedy response! Although this does seem rather specific to hiking...
Peer comment(s):
neutral ormiston : and it also sounds like an American chain
33 mins
Maybe but not for unbiased riders! ;-)
neutral Sheila Wilson : I think that (in the UK at least) an inn is always licensed ie a form of pub, so it may not be appropriate here
40 mins
Don't know that much...
agree Julie Barber : an Inn OR a lodge would be ok though
48 mins
Thank you Julie.
agree Cervin : What about 'trail ride lodge'. I found quite a few refs to horse trail riding all over the world eg http://www.travel-quest.co.uk/tqhorse.htm#trail
55 mins
Thank you.
agree Assimina Vavoula
2 hrs
Thank you Assimina.
neutral Richard Benham : Looks like a proper name; if not, it doesn't really make sense.
2 hrs
Sorry, just realized the slash was missing.
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