Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Serbo-Croat term or phrase:
„Ja neæu ni najmanju Srbiju a ne veliku srbiju po ceni jedne nevine ljudske žrtv
English translation:
" I do not wish for the smallest let alone the Greater Serbia, if price is to be paid in a single hu
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Gordana Podvezanec
Apr 18, 2004 07:23
20 yrs ago
Serbo-Croat term
„Ja neæu ni najmanju Srbiju a ne veliku srbiju po ceni jedne nevine ljudske žrtv
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takodje citat Patrijarha Pavla pred ratove 1991...
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Serbo-Croat term (edited):
�Ja ne�u ni najmanju Srbiju a ne veliku srbiju po ceni jedne nevine ljudske �rtv
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" I do not wish for the smallest let alone the Greater Serbia, if price is to be paid in a single hu
I do not want...
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Comment: "hvala. mislim da ta izjava u tekstu koji prevodim nije prenesena verno tj. verujem da je parafrazirana i to mozda ne bas najvernije. Naime, vrlo je moguce da je Patrijarh to rekao onako kako stoji u citatu koji je poslala Mirjana. Hvala svima na pomoci i trudu."
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Serbo-Croat term (edited):
�Ja ne�u ni najmanju Srbiju a ne veliku srbiju po ceni jedne nevine ljudske �rtv
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Izgleda da je cijela ova recenica preuzeta iz konteksta, a evo sta sam nasla na Netu (vjerujuci u vjerodostojnost ove web stranice):
"If the only way to create a greater Serbia is by crime, then I do not accept that, and let that Serbia disappear. And also if a lesser Serbia can only survive by crime, let it also disappear. And if all the Serbs had to die and only I remained and I could live only by crime, then I would not accept that; it would be better to die."
-- Patriarch Pavle, speaking at a news conference June 28, 1999, at the14th-century Orthodox monastery in Gracanica
http://www.incommunion.org/pavle.htm
Bogdane, mozda Vam ovo pomogne i razrijesi ove jezicke dileme.
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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs 42 mins (2004-04-19 11:05:57 GMT)
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Mozda bi nacin da se rijesi bio ovaj:
I do not want even the smallest Serbia, let alone the Greater Serbia, if it is to be paid by a single innocent human life
"If the only way to create a greater Serbia is by crime, then I do not accept that, and let that Serbia disappear. And also if a lesser Serbia can only survive by crime, let it also disappear. And if all the Serbs had to die and only I remained and I could live only by crime, then I would not accept that; it would be better to die."
-- Patriarch Pavle, speaking at a news conference June 28, 1999, at the14th-century Orthodox monastery in Gracanica
http://www.incommunion.org/pavle.htm
Bogdane, mozda Vam ovo pomogne i razrijesi ove jezicke dileme.
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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs 42 mins (2004-04-19 11:05:57 GMT)
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Mozda bi nacin da se rijesi bio ovaj:
I do not want even the smallest Serbia, let alone the Greater Serbia, if it is to be paid by a single innocent human life
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irinej
: FYI: This translation is mine. Fr. Irinej Dobrijevic, Consultant to the Holy Synod in Belgrade
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Hvala puno! Ovo mi zaista puno znaci!
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Serbo-Croat term (edited):
�Ja ne�u ni najmanju Srbiju a ne veliku srbiju po ceni jedne nevine ljudske �rtv
I wouldn't want even the smallest Serbia, let alone Greater Serbia, if the price is to be a single..
I wouldn't want even the smallest Serbia, let alone Greater Serbia, if the price were to be a single innocent human victim (casualty)
Posto se govori o hipotetickim pretpostavkama, mislim da je bolje ici sa kondicionalnom konstrukcijom
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Note added at 23 hrs 40 mins (2004-04-19 07:03:26 GMT)
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samo jos malo da pojasnim: Recenica MORA biti u kondicionalu jer sadrzi \"ako\" / \"if\", ostalo je samo slaganje vremena. Recenica je hipoteticka jer bi cijena stvaranja Velike Srbija bila daleko veca od samo jedne jedine nevine zrtve, a doticni govornik ne bi pristao cak ni na najmanju zrtvu (ponovo u hipotetickom slucaju da se njega pita)
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs 52 mins (2004-04-19 20:15:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Ooops, sorry, tek sam sad primijetila gresku u ovom boldiranom odgovoru... Kad malo bolje razmislim, donekle imate pravo, nije se moralo ici s kondicionalom, ustvari bi najbolje bilo \"I don\'t want...if the price is to be a single human...\" ali ipak ne vjerujem da sam bilo cim zasluzila ovaku burnu vasu reakciju, a ne vjerujem ni da je Bogdan zasluzio da ga proglasite \"nestrucnim\" ili u krajnjoj liniji ako ste bas osjetili neodoljivu potrebu da mu sve to saspete u lice, mogli ste mu napisati mail, mislim da bi to bilo mnogo korektnije.
Posto se govori o hipotetickim pretpostavkama, mislim da je bolje ici sa kondicionalnom konstrukcijom
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Note added at 23 hrs 40 mins (2004-04-19 07:03:26 GMT)
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samo jos malo da pojasnim: Recenica MORA biti u kondicionalu jer sadrzi \"ako\" / \"if\", ostalo je samo slaganje vremena. Recenica je hipoteticka jer bi cijena stvaranja Velike Srbija bila daleko veca od samo jedne jedine nevine zrtve, a doticni govornik ne bi pristao cak ni na najmanju zrtvu (ponovo u hipotetickom slucaju da se njega pita)
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs 52 mins (2004-04-19 20:15:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Ooops, sorry, tek sam sad primijetila gresku u ovom boldiranom odgovoru... Kad malo bolje razmislim, donekle imate pravo, nije se moralo ici s kondicionalom, ustvari bi najbolje bilo \"I don\'t want...if the price is to be a single human...\" ali ipak ne vjerujem da sam bilo cim zasluzila ovaku burnu vasu reakciju, a ne vjerujem ni da je Bogdan zasluzio da ga proglasite \"nestrucnim\" ili u krajnjoj liniji ako ste bas osjetili neodoljivu potrebu da mu sve to saspete u lice, mogli ste mu napisati mail, mislim da bi to bilo mnogo korektnije.
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Serbo-Croat term (edited):
�Ja ne�u ni najmanju Srbiju a ne veliku srbiju po ceni jedne nevine ljudske �rtv
I don't want even the smallest Serbia, much less a Greater Serbia, if the price is a single innocent
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linkovi
Samo kao dopuna Mirjaninog odgovora,
evo direktnih linkova za zvanican prevod govora patrijarha Pavla i mitropolita Amfilohija Radovica.
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evo direktnih linkova za zvanican prevod govora patrijarha Pavla i mitropolita Amfilohija Radovica.
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